Life has a way of interrupting our plans. Sometimes those interruptions arrive quietly, and sometimes they arrive through illness — forcing us to slow down whether we like it or not.
In Episode 21 of the Well, That’s Awkward podcast, Susan Osman and Rachel Branson reflect on exactly that moment. The episode almost didn’t happen. Susan had been unwell, and there was a real question about whether recording would go ahead at all.
But that uncertainty sparked a much deeper conversation about illness, recovery, and the role our thoughts might play in the healing process.

Listening to the Messages of Illness
Illness often pushes us into a pause we might otherwise avoid. In a culture that celebrates productivity and resilience, stopping can feel uncomfortable — even unsettling.
Susan and Rachel explore the idea that illness may carry messages. Not necessarily in a mystical sense, but as signals that our body and mind need attention, rest, or reflection.
Instead of seeing illness purely as an obstacle, the conversation invites listeners to ask a different question: what might this experience be asking us to notice?
For many people, periods of illness become moments of reassessment — of lifestyle, stress levels, priorities, and the ways we relate to our own wellbeing.
The Power of Thought in Healing
One of the central themes of the episode is the power of thought and intention.
Rachel shares reflections from a recent thought workshop she attended at Sculpture by the Lakes in Dorset, where participants explored the relationship between thinking patterns, belief systems, and personal wellbeing.
The idea is simple yet profound: the thoughts we hold consistently can influence our perception, our behaviours, and ultimately the direction of our lives.
When applied to health and recovery, this raises an interesting possibility — that imagining a future version of yourself who is well may support the healing journey.

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Is Staying in the Present Always the Answer?
Mindfulness culture often emphasises the importance of staying present. But in this episode, Susan and Rachel explore whether that advice always serves us — particularly when the present moment feels painful or difficult.
If someone is experiencing illness, exhaustion, or emotional strain, constantly returning to the present can sometimes feel limiting.
Instead, they ask whether visualising a healthier future self might provide motivation, hope, and direction.
The discussion doesn’t suggest ignoring reality or bypassing genuine health challenges. Rather, it opens up the possibility that the mind can be an ally in recovery, helping us move towards a future where wellbeing feels possible again.
A Conversation About Healing, Reflection and Possibility
As with every episode of Well, That’s Awkward, the conversation blends honesty, curiosity, and a willingness to explore ideas without pretending to have all the answers.
Listeners will find reflections on:
- What illness might reveal about our lives and wellbeing
- The relationship between thoughts, beliefs, and healing
- Whether imagining a future healthy self can support recovery
- The balance between mindfulness and forward thinking
And of course, true to the podcast’s name, there are also a few awkward and deeply human moments along the way.

Listen to Episode 21 of Well, That’s Awkward
If you’ve ever wondered whether your mindset could influence your health, or if illness has ever made you pause and reflect on your life, this episode offers a thoughtful and relatable exploration.
Susan Osman and Rachel Branson invite listeners into a gentle conversation about healing, death, imagination, and the quiet power of our thoughts.
Sometimes the most meaningful insights come not when everything is going smoothly — but when life forces us to stop and reconsider the path ahead.





